it's not fair that people who don't know God don't go to heaven, if they don't know then it's simply not their responsibility, they never had a choice. Why should someone have to pay if they never knew about something, some people just aren't born christian. I know God will understand and look at how good we are, besides some people are born psycho like serial killers or are born into evil homes where they are taught all their life to do evil.

MAn i hate to tell you this but it is promised as a sine of the second comming that all the ppls and nations of the world will have had there chance to come to God.

Now weather they chose to do so or not it is up to them and they will have to pay the caust for there rejection of God.

P.S The bible says the God is just not nessarley fair

Quote: › it's not fair that people who don't know God don't go to heaven, if they don't know then it's simply not their responsibility, they never had a choice. Why should someone have to pay if they never knew about something, some people just aren't born christian. I know God will understand and look at how good we are, besides some people are born psycho like serial killers or are born into evil homes where they are taught all their life to do evil.

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Well, there are people on earth that don't know anything about the good Lord, or His son Jesus, but that is where Christians come in because we as Christians are suppose to talk to others in the world about His love, and what His son did for everyone of us. We all have choice's..... Where do you get that we don't because we do... You said that

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, well then who's fault is that... It is the person's fault because of the fact GOD gave us FREE WILL, meaning We have the right to CHOOSE the right one which is Jesus Christ!! You also say that

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1st of all, GOD didn't make us psycho's, or anything else, He made us Christ LIke... In His Image!! GOD loves us so much that He sacrificed His son to die on the cross for everyone sins including your's.

just an idea/response, when Jesus comes back later, there will be people who haven't heard about Jesus Christ yet, so in a way, wouldn't that be

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for them?

Isn't the whole point of God allowing creation to continue as it is to give man his fair chance to go it alone, and God to prove that He IS indeed fair? "every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess (admit) that Jesus Christ is Lord"...in other words every one will admit that He is a Just God, and in spite of all our attempts...mankind cannot rule himself. Without God's intervention we would completely destroy ourselves. We may not have all the answers regarding each individuals salvation, but in the end when all the cards are on the table all will be known...and no-one will be able to bring a charge of "not fair" against the Lord.

you see thats my hole point the words Justis, and fairness are two diffrent things.

ok, how so? could you elaborate on the difference?

Well think about it like this.

Am man in prission is about to be excauted fro what ever. The day befor he gives his life to Jesus, and becomes saved, ok lets asume this man ment it all the way down to the veary depthes of his soule and is truly saved. He dies and goes to heaven and all that.

That same time somewhere els another man dies in a car wreck or something. Lets say that this is a good man and has allways been a good, kind, and careing person. This man dies in the wreck, never once haveing so much as been to church much less being saved. He Dies and goes to hell.

Where is the fairness in that.

The Justis in this is that God has kept his word, and resqued the man being exacuted from an eternety of damnation

I think i replied to something like this before. I think you guys have a good point, but I'll say the same thing. God has put it in every man's heart to know him. No one will be able to stand before God and say "I didn't know. No one told me." God doesn't want to force us to serve him. He lets us find him on our own. But sometimes I don't think that it's not because people don't know God, maybe they don't WANT to know him. No one can say they haven't heard of God. I mean, cmon, who hasn't heard of God? I think they just haven't made the attempt to find him. Because the world hath blindeth them and the world is in their heart. But again, you do have a good point. Maybe they are not aware that Jesus died for us, to save us from our sins. God is in control, so he'll make the decision when it's time.

Ah, but is it not written that The Lord will not return until all have known Him and decided to accept Him or reject Him? If so then where is the unfairness?

The only thing that I have ever read about that is that Jesus sxaid that he will not return untill everybody in the world has had a chance to acept him

Ok....but how long do you think he'll wait? hmm? Yes, God did say he will return when the bride hath made itself ready. And everyone will definitely have a chance to accept him, but not all will. The bible does say that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord..........But he has waited a long time for mankind to accept him. He is always waiting. But sooner or later he WILL come. We do not know exactly when, so we must always be ready. The only ones that will be with Jesus in the end, are the ones written in The Book of Life. :kheart:

Then my question is...can anyone be blotted out of The Book of Life? :bye:

Oh yes....definitely.

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I believe there is already a thread addressing the "once saved allways saved" issue elsewhere on this site.