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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:15 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

The last few posts have dealt with a little understood aspect relating to the latter day gathering of all Israel and all gentiles who would believe and accept the gospel on both sides of the veil. I believe that sufficient has been shown which has been revealed by the prophets, the apostles and by Christ himself during the course of his earthly ministry. How beautiful and wondrous are his ways! His glorious mercy and love by the means before presented are extended to all those who did not have opportunity to receive a fulness of the gospel of Christ while they lived here upon the earth. How just and true are his ways.

When we speak of the mighty hosts of Israel, it should be understood that this includes those on both sides of the veil. I do not know how many have ardently studied all the accounts of the battles fought and won by the tribe of Judah in regaining some of their land, but in my estimation there are several instances where a much larger and far better equipped army has surrendered to the small and very poorly armed and equipped forces of Israel. Is not this miraculous in and of itself? How do we account for them? What did the opposing forces see before them that would result in their surrender? Would they have surrendered to a rag tag poorly equipped army? Is it possible that they were shown before them the “Mighty Hosts of Israel”?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:14 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

The latter day gathering of Israel so prophesied by many of the lords prophets has far reaching implications and overtones which affect not only Israel, but all mankind. When fully understood, this gathering process puts many more pieces of the gospel puzzle in place and clarifies less understood passages of scripture and thereby fulfills the greater mission of Jesus Christ as the Savior and redeemer of all the world. After all, did not Christ declare that that he would draw all men unto him?

Did not Paul so declare in 1 Corinthians:


1 Corinthians 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
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Paul therefore clearly taught that a common salvation or resurrection as a free gift would be given to all mankind. for “as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” Thus all, believers and non-believers are partakers of this glorious gift of the resurrection.

Paul gave further enlightenment regarding the glorious nature of our resurrection in it’s perfection in the following:

Philipians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.


As mentioned earlier, there is a mighty process of preaching the gospel unto those who have died. This process thereby extends the love and compassion of Christ unto all mankind. Those who through no fault of their own did not receive or have full opportunity to receive the gospel while in this life are thereby given that opportunity after death as christ taught in:

John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.


28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Tue May 01, 2012 6:46 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

This gift of a resurrection is sometimes referred to as a “common salvation” and is not dependent upon our actions. It is a free gift from Christ unto all mankind. It is in and of itself marvelous to comprehend for it restores our physical body after death to our spirit in proper and perfect form. When we speak of “proper and perfect form” it means exactly that, for there will be no deformity of any kind, lost limbs will be restored perfectly, any mental or bodily problems of any kind which may have existed in this life will be fully corrected and that resurrected body will not be subjected to disease or other problems.

What a marvelous blessing and comfort to know that precious little babies that have died shortly after birth or shortly before birth are full recipients of this glorious gift of Christ as we will see that they are restored to life with proper and perfect health.

This resurrection is therefore universal and applies to both the just and unjust as so declared in:

Acts24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.


After the wondrous universal resurrection will come the judgement upon all :

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Christ declared the following powerful words on the varied nature and rewards thus given to all mankind after the resurrection in the following:

Matthew 25:31  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.


34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.


41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.


44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.


46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

In the above do we not clearly see certain specified requirements which the Lord will require to be met by each of us that will have everlasting affects on our eternal destiny?

Can we as individuals afford to fail to do those above listed things required of us by Christ?

If ignored is there any question of the final results as Christ so clearly explained?

Did he fail to clearly set forth those undeniable requirements?

Can we expect a just creator to excuse our willing ignorance of the above words of Christ himself as so recorded in the scriptures?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Wed May 02, 2012 2:29 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Going back a few days I asked for an example of a kingdom fighting a kingdom. You tried to say that domains are classed as kingdoms and Domains applies to any country ,which is wrong. But I will lower my standards can you name any country (domains if it makes you happier) at war with another? Surely this must be happening if the end times are near?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Wed May 02, 2012 6:26 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Greetings Mole,

Let's see if I can lull you into a carnal security. Wink Certainly there have been no major wars during the last 200 years. No major destructions caused by wars in any part of the world has there? Rolling Eyes No genocide right? No wars or even rumors of wars right? No "cold war" right? Surely when you carefully watch and observe present world conditions there has been no military build up anywhere in the world right? Shocked No proliferation of weapons of war have ever been verified by any nation right?

Certainly there has never been any economic unrest or civil disturbances anywhere in the world during the past 100 years right?

And goodness knows there has never at any time been any proliferation of nuclear weapons and certainly no delivery systems capable of deploying those nuclear weapons, right?

And most certainly there exists no natural disasters that could trigger anarchy or civil war or international wars. Nope, the world is at peace, and certainly the keen observer knows that none of the above conditions could ever exist. After all there is no evidence of any insolvency or financial insecurity in any nation. Certainly those who administer governments are all wise and would never misuse tax dollars and of course they would never even consider the stupid practice of deficit spending!

No Mole, you need not worry about anything for all is well in Zion and you certainly need not make any preparations for any day or days of calamity to come, do you?

With all the prosperous conditions throughout all the world and peace and harmony among nations, you should just relax, prop your feet up and enjoy all the yummy chocolates you can....... Question Idea Rolling Eyes Wink

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Fri May 04, 2012 7:17 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

What are we taught regarding the degrees of glory which may be attained by us in the resurrection?

1 Corinthians 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.
It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:


Thus according to Paul there will be different degrees of glory which man man attain to in the resurrection. There is a vast difference between the "glory of the sun" as compared to "the glory of the moon" and yet another difference noted between that glory and "the glory of the stars". Perhaps the most striking difference observed is the the difference between the glory of the sun and that of the moon.

Inasmuch as there will such a striking difference which may be attained in the resurrection, should it therefore be of extreme importance to each and everyone of us to learn and observe all laws and ordinances which pertain to each degree of glory?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Fri May 04, 2012 6:21 pm   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

So wheh I asked if you could name a country fighting another and you said
Quote: › Greetings Mole,

Let's see if I can lull you into a carnal security. Certainly there have been no major wars during the last 200 years. No major destructions caused by wars in any part of the world has there? No genocide right? No wars or even rumors of wars right? No "cold war" right? Surely when you carefully watch and observe present world conditions there has been no military build up anywhere in the world right? No proliferation of weapons of war have ever been verified by any nation right?

Certainly there has never been any economic unrest or civil disturbances anywhere in the world during the past 100 years right?

And goodness knows there has never at any time been any proliferation of nuclear weapons and certainly no delivery systems capable of deploying those nuclear weapons, right?

And most certainly there exists no natural disasters that could trigger anarchy or civil war or international wars. Nope, the world is at peace, and certainly the keen observer knows that none of the above conditions could ever exist. After all there is no evidence of any insolvency or financial insecurity in any nation. Certainly those who administer governments are all wise and would never misuse tax dollars and of course they would never even consider the stupid practice of deficit spending!

No Mole, you need not worry about anything for all is well in Zion and you certainly need not make any preparations for any day or days of calamity to come, do you?

With all the prosperous conditions throughout all the world and peace and harmony among nations, you should just relax, prop your feet up and enjoy all the yummy chocolates you can.......

I take it thats a no then. Very Happy

Quote: › 1 Corinthians 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

What happend Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad to those telestial ones ,did they slip Paul's mind?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 05, 2012 7:11 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Dear Mole,

The only way you can get a NO answer to your first question is by burying your head in the sand. Smile Wink Shocked

Perhaps you should examine present world conditions a little closer. If carefully observed, one might get a clue of potential global conflicts which could erupt into war conditions as man has never before seen on such a scale.

In response to your second question I do not think that the "telestial ones" slipped Paul's mind by any means. Perhaps when one compares the brightness and glory of the stars to that of the sun, one might get the impression that the glory or intensity of the stars is not even noticeable in the presence of the sun.

Another thing to remember is that Paul was not at anytime teaching people how to attain to either a terrestrial or telestial glory. The gospel message which he bore was focused only upon the attainment of a Celestial glory.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sat May 05, 2012 8:45 pm   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Quote: › The only way you can get a NO answer to your first question is by burying your head in the sand.

Yes sorry I must have had my head in the sand that must be why I missed your mention of any countries at war with each other . Sorry again. By the way what were the countries you mentioned?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 06, 2012 6:29 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Dear Mole,

Were you just born yesterday?

Where would you like to start?

Have you followed history for the past 200 years?

Do you really not recall any nations which have been at war over the last two hundred years?

All the wars which have occurred during the past 200 years will be but a pre-curser to that which is looming on the horizon. Those coming wars will be between nations and within nations and will be of such intense nature that the prophet Joel described as "the abomination of desolation." Do not think for a minute that wonderful NZ will even escape those calamities for there shall come a time which the Lord will bring to an end all nations. (Perhaps foremost will be all those nations who will array themselves against Israel as is so clearly prophesied.)

An intense level of natural disasters of many types will play an important role in this turbulent time which all mankind will yet encounter.

If you cannot find any evidence of wars in your history search, then be patient for yet a little while and you will witness the fulfillment of that spoken of above. Idea Shocked Sad

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 06, 2012 6:42 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

In the last few posts we have viewed some of the preparations which the Lord requires of the House of Israel that they might be prepared to become again worthy to receive and honor God’s covenant. These requirements apply not only to all Israel, but to all kindreds, nations, tongues and people everywhere for God is no respecter of persons.

The fulfillment of God’s promises to Israel and all those who would be saved with them is universally dependent upon their remembrance and obedience to that sacred covenant. Some have rationalized that obedience to God’s commandments as a requirement applies to Israel only. This is a false and vain and foolish doctrine in which the enemy of all righteousness delights.

As the prophets and the Lord have clearly pointed out, their second gathering is only fulfilled as they remember God’s covenant and remember and keep his laws and statutes. We should remember the the Lord so lamented
How oft I would have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chicks and ye would not.

We should by now fully understand that this gathering will occur during the dispensation known as “the dispensation of the fullness of times.”

We should also clearly understand that “the Lord’s house is a house of order”, therefore this mighty gathering will be documented and appropriate records kept for each one gathered.

If one knows not where those records are kept, then obviously such an one has placed himself or herself in a position that they are not yet a part of that gathering.

Have we hearkened unto that voice from heaven
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.”?

Are we willing to ignore that voice from heaven and therefore remain in Babylon and becomepartakers of her sinsand thus also become partakersof her plagues.”?

Is there any course of safety assured to anyone who chooses to become partakers of the sins of Babylon and also become partakers of her plagues?

Is there anyone who can afford the consequences of such a disastrous course of action?

Is there a safety net in keeping God’s commandments?


Has God provided a safety net to the ungodly, unrepentant and disobedient?

Has he provided a safety net for those disobedient in the days of Noah?

Did he spare the disobedient in Sodom and Gomorrah?

Did he spare the armies of Egypt who sought to destroy the House of Israel?

Did he spare the corrupt nations from destruction when Israel was let into the promised lands?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Sun May 06, 2012 6:31 pm   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Dear Rev2
Quote: › Were you just born yesterday?

Where would you like to start?

Have you followed history for the past 200 years?

Do you really not recall any nations which have been at war over the last two hundred years?

Of course I recall wars over the last 200 years. History is one of my hobbies. Who can forget the British-Zanzibar war of 1896?

Its just that you said on the 2nd April 2012



Quote: › Do we observe another sign of the times as found in verse 10?

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

I merely asked for an example of a Kingdom fighting a Kingdom to show that these signs were in fact present. I didn't get an example, so I lowered the bar and merely asked for an example of a country fighting a country to show the signs of the endtimes are an actual reality. Again I have received no confimation. Yet again I ask for an example to suggest the endtimes are near.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon May 07, 2012 6:37 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Do you not find it interesting to observe that Israel is not only a covenant people, but also a temple building people.

As a matter of fact temples appear to be a command from the Lord himself as observed in Exodus wherein the Lord commanded Moses:


Exodus 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.

9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.


The tabernacle and later temple was a special sacred building built for specific purposes and was to separate and apart from other houses of worship. It was built also for the specific purpose as the Lord had shown unto MosesAnd let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.

Prior to the actual building of a temple, the Lord permitted at portable preliminary structure known as the “tabernacle” wherein special work was done which required special sacred or holy garments as explained in:

Exodus 35:19 The cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, the holy garments for Aaron the priest, and the garments of his sons, to minister in the priest’s office.

20  And all the congregation of the children of Israel departed from the presence of Moses.

21 And they came, every one whose heart stirred him up, and every one whom his spirit made willing, and they brought the Lord’s offering to the work of the tabernacle of the congregation, and for all his service, and for the holy garments.


This tabernacle was a temporary structure wherein also was placed the following according to the word of the Lord to Moses:

Exodus 40:AND the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

2 On the first day of the first month shalt thou set up the tabernacle of the tent of the congregation.


3 And thou shalt put therein the ark of the testimony, and cover the ark with the vail.

As one reads the full account of all the details for construction for this special sacred structure as found in Exodus, one might sense the import of this temporary structure which was built according to the design of the master architect, even the Lord God of Israel himself.

This tabernacle served several very important purposes for the full house of Israel.


All this was done as a forerunner or precursor to the greater special temple which would in due time be built for the Lord by Solomon.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Tue May 08, 2012 6:55 am   Post subject:  Re: Israel! Do you know? Back to top 

Heretofore there was no temple built unto the living God of Israel. The manner of temple construction was clearly to be as the Lord would reveal. To remind us of this point I quote from our last post: “As a matter of fact temples appear to be a command from the Lord himself as observed in Exodus wherein the Lord commanded Moses:

Exodus 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.


Although this was revealed to Moses at an earlier time, it was not until Solomon’s time that such an edifice was built. In 1st Kings we have this detailed account of that temple and it’s construction as follows:

1 Kings 6: 1 AND it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the Lord.
2 And the house which king Solomon built for the Lord, the length thereof was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits, and the height thereof thirty cubits.
3 And the porch before the temple of the house, twenty cubits was the length thereof, according to the breadth of the house; and ten cubits was the breadth thereof before the house.
4 And for the house he made windows of narrow lights.
5  And against the wall of the house he built chambers round about, against the walls of the house round about, both of the temple and of the oracle: and he made chambers round about:
6 The nethermost chamber was five cubits broad, and the middle was six cubits broad, and the third was seven cubits broad: for without in the wall of the house he made narrowed rests round about, that the beams should not be fastened in the walls of the house.
7 And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe nor any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.
8 The door for the middle chamber was in the right side of the house: and they went up with winding stairs into the middle chamber, and out of the middle into the third.
9 So he built the house, and finished it; and covered the house with beams and boards of cedar.
10 And then he built chambers against all the house, five cubits high: and they rested on the house with timber of cedar.
11  And the word of the Lord came to Solomon, saying,
12 Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:
13 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake my people Israel.
14 So Solomon built the house, and finished it.
15 And he built the walls of the house within with boards of cedar, both the floor of the house, and the walls of the cieling: and he covered them on the inside with wood, and covered the floor of the house with planks of fir.
16 And he built twenty cubits on the sides of the house, both the floor and the walls with boards of cedar: he even built them for it within, even for the oracle, even for the most holy place.
17 And the house, that is, the temple before it, was forty cubits long.
18 And the cedar of the house within was carved with knops and open flowers: all was cedar; there was no stone seen.
19 And the oracle he prepared in the house within, to set there the ark of the covenant of the Lord.
20 And the oracle in the forepart was twenty cubits in length, and twenty cubits in breadth, and twenty cubits in the height thereof: and he overlaid it with pure gold; and so covered the altar which was of cedar.
21 So Solomon overlaid the house within with pure gold: and he made a partition by the chains of gold before the oracle; and he overlaid it with gold.
22 And the whole house he overlaid with gold, until he had finished all the house: also the whole altar that was by the oracle he overlaid with gold.
23  And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high.
24 And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits.
25 And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size.
26 The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub.
27 And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house.
28 And he overlaid the cherubims with gold.
29 And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, within and without.
30 And the floor of the house he overlaid with gold, within and without.
31  And for the entering of the oracle he made doors of olive tree: the lintel and side posts were a fifth part of the wall.
32 The two doors also were of olive tree; and he carved upon them carvings of cherubims and palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid them with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubims, and upon the palm trees.
33 So also made he for the door of the temple posts of olive tree, a fourth part of the wall.
34 And the two doors were of fir tree: the two leaves of the one door were folding, and the two leaves of the other door were folding.
35 And he carved thereon cherubims and palm trees and open flowers: and covered them with gold fitted upon the carved work.
36  And he built the inner court with three rows of hewed stone, and a row of cedar beams.
37  In the fourth year was the foundation of the house of the Lord laid, in the month Zif:
38 And in the eleventh year, in the month Bul, which is the eighth month, was the house finished throughout all the parts thereof, and according to all the fashion of it. So was he seven years in building it.

Within that temple was also constructed the following as found in:

1 Kings 7: 21 And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz.

22 And upon the top of the pillars was lily work: so was the work of the pillars finished.

23  And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

24 And under the brim of it round about there were knops compassing it, ten in a cubit, compassing the sea round about: the knops were cast in two rows, when it was cast.

25 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward.


In all but one of the more than 130 temples built unto the Lord in this dispensation this same construction pattern is followed wherein thismolten sea or (baptismal font) is constructed which rests as the Lord has directed in the same manner for this baptismal font standsupon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward.

As shown in the following, this pattern of temple worship and construction was to be a house built unto the name of the Lord and dedicated unto Him. This same pattern is followed to this very day by those of the House of Israel as the Lord has commanded.

“2 Chronicles 2:4 Behold, I build an house to the name of the Lord my God, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the Lord our God. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.

This pattern for the molten sea or baptismal font is also built according as the Lord has revealed and is also confirmed by a second witness as found in:

2 Chronicles 4:2  Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

3 And under it was the similitude of oxen, which did compass it round about: ten in a cubit, compassing the sea round about. Two rows of oxen were cast, when it was cast.

4 It stood upon twelve oxen, three looking toward the north, and three looking toward the west, and three looking toward the south, and three looking toward the east: and the sea was set above upon them, and all their hinder parts were inward.”

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We should remember that temple worship was a very sacred part of Israel’s history. Certain preparations were required of those who served and administered the ordinances in those sacred edifices.

One instance of the Lord’s desire for a sacred temple to be built is found in:


2 Samuel 7:AND it came to pass, when the king sat in his house, and the Lord had given him rest round about from all his enemies;

2 That the king said unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in an house of cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth within curtains.

3 And Nathan said to the king, Go, do all that is in thine heart; for the Lord is with thee.

4  And it came to pass that night, that the word of the Lord came unto Nathan, saying,

5 Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the Lord, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?


Throughout the bible are recorded several instances wherein various revelations were given in the temple. Some of these wonderful experiences are so recorded in the following:

Habakuk 2:20 But the Lord is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.
Another experience is recorded in:

Ezekiel 43:4 And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.

5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house.


Consider also this yet to be fulfilled future prophesy of Malachi:

Malachi 3:BEHOLD, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.

2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner’s fire, and like fullers’ soap:

3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.

4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the Lord of hosts.

6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

7  Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?


Consider this very sacred temple experience of Zacharius

Luke 1:5  THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judæa, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

7 And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.

8 And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest’s office before God in the order of his course,

9 According to the custom of the priest’s office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

10 And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.

11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

12 And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.


16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.


18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.


19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.

20 And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

21 And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple.

22 And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless.

23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

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