Can this behavior be explained by instinct alone?

Playing Dolphin

Harrie,

Explaining this behavior as instinct might do more damage to evolution than you think. I would definitely say it is explained by design more than mere animal instinct.

Materialists explain life as evolution. I see life as designed. And here is a good example of that. Other good examples are the DNA signatures that allow for biological adaptation. You call it evolution, I call it adaptation within a "kind".

I do not believe this can be caused by instinct. I believe that there is no gap between animals and humans.

As you know I do not believe that life is designed.

how can some one think this is not all by design??? it takes far more faith to believe everything is just random chaos....

Hi Helen,

Welcome here by the way, I have not visited for quite some time, but am still willing to answer questions.


I don't belief in random chaos either. I belief in selection of certain variations by change in environment.

I find it impossible to belief in a designer; one of the problems is that the designer needs to be more complex than what He designed AND He needs to be designed or have always existed. It is much more simpler to have a less complex universe to have always existed in one form. (Big bang being a phase in the eternal existence of matter/energy) Assuming there was a designer simply increases the problem.


Regarding this post about the dolphins; I think that humans are part of the animal kingdom; that what makes us human does not make us a non-animal.

I believe in random chaos. I just don't have enough faith in it to believe it is the only thing that got us here. Clearly God has put His hand in all this.

I'm not sure if I know what you mean with "I belief in random chaos."?

I don't think random chaos got us here.

Imagine, for example, a group of animals during the beginning of an ice age. Many animals will not do well and some will not survive the cold, but some will be able to resist the cold better, just like you have humans that run faster than others, while some don't need much food, or others are better in solving abstract problems. That small group of animals that can cope better will have offspring that on average can resist the cold even better than the previous generation as they inherited their parents genes. The offspring will show variation again, but now at a new level. Again the ones that can cope best will have the best chances to survival. So gradually the animal changes, but it isn't random at all.

If there is a God that created everything there is, than this God MUST have been more complex than everything there is in order to be able to create, much in the same way that a painter is more complex than a painting. This complex God must have come into existence or has always existed. But if this works for a complex God, why is it so unlikely that the simpler universe has always existed?
To me that sounds like the old model of the flat earth resting on a turtle, that rested on a bigger turtle, etc... adding the turtles solves nothing and even increases the problem.

About design: there are many things in the human and animal body that are very strange if it was designed; the non-functional remains of legs in some whales for example, or the tendon many people have in their hands that is only connected at one side so can't function at all; the same tendon is functional in apes.

And if we need to have been designed as we are too complex to have ended up the way we are, why not the much more complex God?

I'm not sure if I know what you mean with "I belief in random chaos."?

I don't think random chaos got us here.

Imagine, for example, a group of animals during the beginning of an ice age. Many animals will not do well and some will not survive the cold, but some will be able to resist the cold better, just like you have humans that run faster than others, while some don't need much food, or others are better in solving abstract problems. That small group of animals that can cope better will have offspring that on average can resist the cold even better than the previous generation as they inherited their parents genes. The offspring will show variation again, but now at a new level. Again the ones that can cope best will have the best chances to survival. So gradually the animal changes, but it isn't random at all.

If there is a God that created everything there is, than this God MUST have been more complex than everything there is in order to be able to create, much in the same way that a painter is more complex than a painting. This complex God must have come into existence or has always existed. But if this works for a complex God, why is it so unlikely that the simpler universe has always existed?
To me that sounds like the old model of the flat earth resting on a turtle, that rested on a bigger turtle, etc... adding the turtles solves nothing and even increases the problem.

About design: there are many things in the human and animal body that are very strange if it was designed; the non-functional remains of legs in some whales for example, or the tendon many people have in their hands that is only connected at one side so can't function at all; the same tendon is functional in apes.

And if we need to have been designed as we are too complex to have ended up the way we are, why not the much more complex God?

I'm not sure if I know what you mean with "I belief in random chaos."?

I don't think random chaos got us here.

Imagine, for example, a group of animals during the beginning of an ice age. Many animals will not do well and some will not survive the cold, but some will be able to resist the cold better, just like you have humans that run faster than others, while some don't need much food, or others are better in solving abstract problems. That small group of animals that can cope better will have offspring that on average can resist the cold even better than the previous generation as they inherited their parents genes. The offspring will show variation again, but now at a new level. Again the ones that can cope best will have the best chances to survival. So gradually the animal changes, but it isn't random at all.

If there is a God that created everything there is, than this God MUST have been more complex than everything there is in order to be able to create, much in the same way that a painter is more complex than a painting. This complex God must have come into existence or has always existed. But if this works for a complex God, why is it so unlikely that the simpler universe has always existed?
To me that sounds like the old model of the flat earth resting on a turtle, that rested on a bigger turtle, etc... adding the turtles solves nothing and even increases the problem.

About design: there are many things in the human and animal body that are very strange if it was designed; the non-functional remains of legs in some whales for example, or the tendon many people have in their hands that is only connected at one side so can't function at all; the same tendon is functional in apes.

And if we need to have been designed as we are too complex to have ended up the way we are, why not the much more complex God?