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Were there dragons in the Bible?
 
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Living Martyr
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:17 pm   Post subject:  Were there dragons in the Bible? Back to top 

I have a question, in Job 41:13-24 is it describing a dragon?

...were there dragons in bible times?

Job 41:13-24

13 Who can strip off his outer coat?
Who would approach him with a bridle?

14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth,
ringed about with his fearsome teeth?

15 His back has [a] rows of shields
tightly sealed together;

16 each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.

17 They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.

18 His snorting throws out flashes of light;
his eyes are like the rays of dawn.

19 Firebrands stream from his mouth;
sparks of fire shoot out.

20 Smoke pours from his nostrils
as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.

21 His breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames dart from his mouth.

22 Strength resides in his neck;
dismay goes before him.

23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.

24 His chest is hard as rock,
hard as a lower millstone.

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Dharma
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:23 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

Honest opinion?? Ummm,,,,,,no.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:28 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

...then wut are these verses discribing?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:36 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

It wouldn't be the first time that something is described in the bible that didn't exist.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:43 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

like...

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:00 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

The sky is solid, a "firmament" (Gen 1:6, Job 22:14, Isa 40:22).
It has windows through which the rain falls (Gen 7:11).
Earth has four corners, and floats on water (Isa 11:12, Ps 24:2,
136:6, Rev 7:1).
Earth is a circular disk (Isa 40:22).
Earth is flat (these verses were used for centuries by the church
to prove this: Ps 93:1, Jer 10:13, Dan 4:10-11, Zech 9:10,
Matt 4:8, Rev 1:7).
Earth does not move (Ps 93:1, 96:10, 104:5, 1 Chr 16:30).
Death or illness is caused by sin (Gen 2:17, Lev 26:16, 21, 25,
Deut 7:15, 28:21, 27, James 1:15).
Disease and mental illness are caused by an "evil spirit" or
"possession" (Mark 1:21-34, 2:6-9, 1 Sam 16:23, 18:10,
19:9).
Leprosy can be cured by following the instructions in Lev 13, 14.
Seed must "die" before it grows (John 12:24, 1 Cor 15:36).
Snakes eat dust (Gen 3:14, Isa 65:25).
Every beast shall fear man (Gen 9:2).
The ostrich abandons her eggs (Job 39:13-16).
A river divides into four rivers and they flow in different
directions (Gen 2:10).
There was no rainbow before Noah's time (Gen 9:11-17).
Thunder is God's voice (Ps 77:1Cool.

Shall I go on?? I see much of this as a problem of taking things Literally.

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Dharma
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:44 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

By the way... a very brief search for the answer came up that it (Job 41:13-24) might be a reference to a "crocodile".

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Living Martyr
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:13 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

hmm..but still, there could have been dragons in bible times...

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:37 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

and unicorns??

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Living Martyr
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PostYou have posted in this forum: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:21 pm   Post subject:   Back to top 

meh..how do we know God didnt create dragons? or for unicorns for that matter?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:15 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I would begin by asking what evidence you have to support this other that this one "cryptic bible quote" and other more mythological stories.

Anything more concrete?? Show me the bones.

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:41 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I have know more evidence that Dragons and Unicorns were around in bible times then I do evidence of Jesus' reserection. The only difference is that by my Faith, I know Jesus rose from the dead. And with the idea of a dragon being discribed in Job, there are other passages which are discribing creatures foreign to us..so why couldnt this passage be a dragon?

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PostYou have posted in this forum: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:08 am   Post subject:   Back to top 

I never said that "It couldn't be", I said that I doubt it is true. I find insufficient evidence to support the existence of unicorns, dragons, little green men, fairies, and similar myths.

I would NOT certainally put any "faith" into this belief. You can believe anything you choose to (I suppose), but believing does not necessarily make it so.

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