Nator, When you say "evil act", what do you mean?

If God does'nt exist how do you catorgorize what is evil?

If God does'nt exist and we live in a purely naturalistic world, WHAT'S "EVIL"?

What objective frame of reference are you using to to say somthing is "evil"?

Your own opinion or preference?

You might aswell ask me to picture in my mind a one ended stick.

In case you havent noticed alot of your questions commit intellectual suicide and self destruct.

They cut themselves off at the knees.

So I ask you again, what frame of reference are you using to measure what is "good" and "evil"?

Quote: › Nator, When you say "evil act", what do you mean?

The concrete example I provided was rape, but there are others such as murder, robbery, battery, and any number of other evils.

Quote: › If God does'nt exist how do you catorgorize what is evil?

I do not need God to define and categorize evil. There are ample cultural norms and definitions, and though those can change, generally when they do, they are improvements.

Quote: › What objective frame of reference are you using to to say somthing is "evil"?

There is no objective frame of reference we can use to define evil. Evil is a culturally subjective term that alters.

Quote: › In case you havent noticed alot of your questions commit intellectual suicide and self destruct. They cut themselves off at the knees.

No. They do not. Your beliefs commit intellectual suicide.

Would you consider it good to force a rape victim to marry her rapist after the rapist pays her father? There is a passage in the Bible demanding just that.

I agree rape and all the other examples you listed are indeed WRONG.

I know WHY they are wrong do you?

I'm pretty sure you are missintepreting and taking out of context what ever Bible verses you are refering to.

If we are products of a naturalistic evolutionary process.....you by no means can say evil or good even exists.

Thus your point is moot.

Your argument has no foundation or anchor.

Would you say "opinions" of good and evil are supported by cultural and social norms?

In some cultures rape and slavery are the norm so does that make it "right"?

Are there no laws above our laws?

According to you NO.

Do you say something is good or evil because God has said so, or do you say somthing is good or evil based on your own preferences?

The bible says that God created good and evil. Satan is a created being and cannot create anything. When sin came into the world death reigned from Adam until Jesus Christ. All the world is under sin and in a state of death. Therefore sin that reigns brings destruction of all sorts. Those in Christ are set free from the law of sin and death.

Death AND SIN does not reign in the born again Christian. Though our bodies may die or even suffer because they are not yet redeemed until the resserrection of the just, our spirits are born of God and will live eternally with him where there is no more death or sin or suffering of any kind.

Quote: › I'm pretty sure you are missintepreting and taking out of context what ever Bible verses you are refering to.

It is rather difficult to misinterpret the plain text.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 says:
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife;

It could not be any plainer than that.

Quote: › Thus your point is moot.

Since my point is not simply about the existence of evil, but rather the contradiction of the existence of evil in a world where an all-good, all-powerful being also supposedly exists, the point is anything but moot.

In other words, your questions and arguments against my views do not automatically make your views correct, nor do they counter the arguments I put forth.

Quote: › Your argument has no foundation or anchor.

My original argument is not about the existence of evil and its origins. My argument is that the existence of evil is contradictory to the existence of an all-good, all-powerful being. You have not adequately addressed that.

Quote: › Would you say "opinions" of good and evil are supported by cultural and social norms? In some cultures rape and slavery are the norm so does that make it "right"?

Name a culture that considers rape both normal and good. Just one. I have spent a good deal of time studying the cultures of the world, and I cannot think of a single one off the top of my head. This is ridiculous.

Quote: › Are there no laws above our laws? According to you NO.

This is correct, but you still have not addressed the original problem presented. Instead, you are attacking my views on the existence and interpretation of evil. Those actually have nothing to do with the original argument and are by no means a counter to it.

Quote: › Do you say something is good or evil because God has said so, or do you say somthing is good or evil based on your own preferences?

Given the previous quote from Deuteronomy, I think I'd much rather go with my own preferences, which are far less barbaric, though again this is not a counter to the original argument.

On account of the the whole human race being prone to evil (right from Adam, evil was committed), God waited until it was so bad.... then after many generations, with the exception of Noah and his family (8 people), God destroyed the lot.

After much time, when the earth was repopulated, in God's special city Jerusalem, he looked for a single righteous person so that He did not have to destroy it. He asked Jeremiah in 5:1

“Roam to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem,
And look now, and take note.
And seek in her open squares,
If you can find a man,
If there is one who does justice, who seeks truth,
Then I will pardon her....."

Not one was found.

Similarly He asked in Ezekiel 22:
29 “The people of the land have practiced oppression and committed robbery, and they have wronged the poor and needy and have oppressed the sojourner without justice. 30 “And I searched for a man among them who should build up the wall and stand in the gap before Me for the land, that I should not destroy it; but I found no one.

So I think the answer to this question is simply that God is being patient. God has an appointed time (check out Romans 11:25).